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Do you think incineration is a good solution for Devon's waste?
 
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 Subject :Alternatives to Incineration.. 18-11-2009 14:29:06 
frankie
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Many people in Devon are doubtful as to whether incineration is the greenest solution for our waste, and preservation of our environment is a high priority for many people in this part of the country.

I notice that Viridor is involved with waste projects across the country that include technologies such as anaerobic digestion and composting.

I know that you are quite far along in your plans for the New England Quarry, but I think you are in for a rough ride trying to convince everyone that incineration is the best solution.

If Devon County Council was flexible as to the exact solution for its waste, would you be able to propose an alternative greener solution that did not include incineration?

Could you tell us a bit more about your other projects around the country that involve alternatives?

Many thanks!

Frankie
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 Subject :Re:Alternatives to Incineration.. 20-11-2009 07:35:09 
mrsgreengirl
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I second this. I would be very interested to hear about other possible solutions. I believe we need to find a solution to the waste issue that will enable us to have a positive not negative impact on the environment as a whole.

GG
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 Subject :Re:Alternatives to Incineration.. 22-11-2009 14:53:19 
garethd
Joined: 21-11-2009 20:22:10
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Location: Ivybridge
I have read that comparing Incineration to Landfilling is not exactly fair unless you compare it with more modern landfilling techniques that also recover energy from landfill. Perhaps Viridor could comment on this?
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 Subject :Re:Alternatives to Incineration.. 26-11-2009 07:30:22 
Viridor
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Location: Taunton
 
Dear All,

The technology proposed is to deal with residual waste post-recycling; the use of composting and/or AD technologies is not appropriate to handle mixed residual wastes. Viridor is utilising composting and AD in other areas (including composting in Devon) where waste collection regimes are appropriate for those processing methods.

With regard to other technologies such as advanced thermal treatment, Viridor does not consider that those alternative technologies are bankable, proven or competitive for the local market in South West Devon at this time. This proposal is to provide essential waste treatment recovery for residual waste, ie waste that is unsuitable for recycling or composting.

The proposed technology is a net producer of non-fossil fuel derived energy – it will improve resource efficiency as a consequence.

Compared to conventional landfilling, the EfW plant will result in significantly lower methane emissions. This is important as methane is a greenhouse gas which is 20 times more powerful in its effect that CO2. By using waste as a fuel in a controlled environment, the amount of greenhouse gas can be dramatically reduced. This comparison is based upon modern landfill operations where landfill gas is collected and converted to energy.

Kind regards,
Howard Ellard
Viridor
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 Subject :Re:Re:Alternatives to Incineration.. 26-11-2009 08:52:46 
Anna
Joined: 16-11-2009 11:28:40
Posts: 20
Location: Devon
Viridor Wrote on 26-11-2009 07:30:22:
Compared to conventional landfilling, the EfW plant will result in significantly lower
methane emissions. This is important as methane is a greenhouse gas which is 20 times more powerful in its effect that CO2.
By using waste as a fuel in a controlled environment, the amount of greenhouse gas can be dramatically reduced.
This comparison is based upon modern landfill operations where landfill gas is collected and converted to energy.

If the goal is to reduce Methane emissions surely a shift in farming methods would be a better option as oppose to polluting our air
with dioxins?

This was taken from the DEFRA website:
Agriculture is the UK’s single largest emitter of nitrous oxide – about 67% of the UK total – that emanates mainly from the use of nitrogen
fertiliser. The sector also accounts for 38% of the UK’s methane emissions, mainly from the digestive systems of livestock and from
manure.


Or use anaerobic digestion which utilises methane and CO2 to produce energy?

Or what about using Methane from landfill to produce electricity like Viridor themselves use in thier Edinburgh site?
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 Subject :Re:Alternatives to Incineration.. 27-11-2009 05:38:36 
frankie
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Since it is a big question, I have just
opened a new topic
to discuss the question of whether incineration is a technology that will help us combat global warming.
(But please keep on discussing alternatives here).
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